Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2705 =================== CFJ 2705 (Interest Index = 2) ==================== If Pavitra were to deregister now, explicitly invoking eir R101(vii) right, the only appropriate judgement in a criminal CFJ against em for violating the Power-2 R1742 by violating Acid Test by deregistering would be GUILTY/DISCHARGE. ======================================================================== Caller: Pavitra Judge: c. Judgement: TRUE ======================================================================== History: Called by Pavitra: 24 Sep 2009 06:50:27 GMT Assigned to c.: 26 Sep 2009 19:01:30 GMT Judged TRUE by c.: 26 Sep 2009 20:01:03 GMT ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by woggle: R1742/18: "... However, if a player is found GUILTY of violating this rule by failing to act in accordance with an Equitable contract, then the only appropriate sentence is DISCHARGE, unless the failure pertains to a previously-imposed equity judgement." (Though I believe R101 prevents the judgment of GUILTY since it proscribes anti-MAY-deregister interpretation of the pledge itself and not just the rules.) ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: Roger Hicks wrote: > This judge's opinion is that such a Hard Deregistration is exercised > by the player ceasing to be involved in the Agoran forums and > essentially ignoring the game. When such occurs, R101 vii is fulfilled > as Agora makes no attempt to impose any penalty upon a absent player > other than to deregister them. Judge BobTHJ's arguments in CFJ 2693 limit the R101 protection of the act of deregistration to the fact that "Agora makes no attempt to impose any penalty upon an absent player other than to deregister them." It follows that this fact should be maintained with extraordinary strictness, if R101(vii) is to have any meaning as a fundamental right. I strongly recommend TRUE. I request that if the judge finds FALSE e opine on whether APOLOGY or COMMUNITY SERVICE might be appropriate; I submit that they should not be, since they ask the ex-player to respond actively to the judgement, rather than administering a silent, platonic gamestate modification that e might consider negative if e still cared about the game. (Theoretically, this is true of APOLOGY and COMMUNITY SERVICE as well, just as theoretically the deregistered player can simply ignore the fact that a criminal case has been initiated against em; but APOLOGY and COMMUNITY SERVICE, like GUILTY, are different in moral character if not in fundamental type, and I think the outcome of this case will reflect, if not set a precedent for, Agoran community standards on whether it is socially acceptable to R101(vii)-deregister.) ======================================================================== Caller's Evidence: I pledge: { This pledge is named Acid Test. Pavitra SHALL NOT deregister. Pavitra CAN terminate this pledge by announcement. } ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by Murphy: Also FALSE if R101(vii) is interpreted as involving itself at the level of culpability rather than sentencing (in which case it conflicts with and takes precedence over R1742, so the only appropriate judgement is NOT GUILTY). ======================================================================== Judge c.'s Arguments: TRUE. A criminal court without the power to sentence Pavitra can't possibly be infringing on eir right to do anything. ========================================================================